Loaded or empty chamber? For carry? For home defense?

Today, we’re going to cover 2 common questions that people have about what condition to leave their gun in.

First…what condition should your home defense gun be in?

Second…is it ever OK to carry a gun with an empty chamber?

We’ll go over both…and it’s important that you read this, because getting either of these wrong could expose you to increased liability or risk.

For your home defense gun, one of the big drivers, amazingly enough, is protecting firemen.

You see, with a semi-auto, if there’s a round in the chamber and it happens to cook-off in a house fire, it’s going to leave the muzzle with enough velocity to go through stuff and hurt/kill people.

This isn’t the case with loose ammo, boxed ammo, or ammo in a magazine.

If the round in the chamber happens to cook-off before the rounds in the magazine, then you have the possibility of multiple rounds firing.

There’s an easy solution…

Store all of the guns you’re not carrying with a full mag and an empty chamber.

For revolvers, the equivalent would be to have the hammer down on an empty cylinder.

There are a couple of reasons for doing this beyond basic gun safety.

If every firearm is stored in the same condition, you KNOW that you have to chamber a round when you pull one out of your safe before you use it.

I’ve got 2 exceptions in our house…

First is my carry gun, which is always close by at night and has a round chambered.carr

Second is a pistol under my bed in a heat-treated/hardened gun safe with a round in the chamber.  The hardened steel will stop a pistol round and the gun safe is too small to allow the slide to reciprocate enough to chamber a 2nd round.

Otherwise, semi-autos, bolt rifles, lever actions, and pumps are all locked and stored with an empty chamber and the safety off.

***Quick simple tip for magazine fed guns***

Always load your rifle magazines so that you know whether the right cartridge or left cartridge is on top.

On my AR mags, the first round always goes to the left and 2nd to the right.

So, at night, I can pull my gun from the safe in the dark, charge it, drop the mag and feel the top round (in the dark) to see if it’s feeding from the right or left.  If it’s off to the right, then I don’t have a round chambered.  If the round is off to the left, then I do.

Is it OK to carry a gun with an empty chamber?

A:  It depends.

Here’s what I mean…you should aspire to carry a gun in a way that you’re comfortable carrying with one in the chamber.

Tactically, there are a dozen reasons why it’s smarter to carry with one in the pipe…starting with the fact that you may not have the time, dexterity, or skill to rack the slide (or rack it one-handed) in a self defense situation where your attacker is on top of you.

Some people point to “Israeli” carry…which is to carry with an empty chamber and rack it as part of the drawstroke, but this is more complicated, takes more time and effort to get proficient at, and depends on having 2 free, working hands.  This method of carry is a “base” level of instruction designed to minimize negligent discharges among people who carry but don’t practice rather than to maximize combat effectiveness.

Here’s where I think it’s absolutely fine to carry with an empty chamber…for a time…

> Shooters who are scared to death of carrying with a loaded chamber, but want to get comfortable enough that they can carry with a loaded chamber.

In a couple of extreme examples, I’ve had people “practice” carrying an airsoft gun…just to get confidence that everyone’s not going to see that they’re carrying and that it’s not going to randomly fall out.

Then, they carried with an empty chamber until they got comfortable that their gun wasn’t going to randomly “go off” on it’s own.

Finally…within a few days to a couple of weeks…they had earned confidence to know that carrying a firearm is amazingly and thankfully boring and they were able to start safely and confidently carrying with one in the chamber.

Of course, there are a couple of caveats…

First, safe carry depends in large part on a safe holster that covers the trigger and holds the firearm securely during ordinary movement.  Don’t go cheap or cute on holsters.

Second, if you’re going to carry in appendix position, I’d strongly encourage you to have either a factory double action first trigger press, a factory double-action-only trigger, or a safety if you’re going to carry with one in the pipe.

Both of these questions came up quite a bit from people who registered for the Dynamic Gunfighting presentation we held last night.  If you missed it, you can watch the replay through Sunday night by clicking >HERE<

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8 Comments

  • Scott Cooper

    Reply Reply September 8, 2019

    I always carry with an empty chamber and I practice my dry fire with the rack as part of the draw stroke, without any issues. Do I lose a half second on the draw, yes. Is it possible I could be attacked and not be able to rack, yes. But I think those scenarios are very remote. Negligent discharge (firearm coming out of holster) is a larger risk to me both physically and from a liability standpoint and honestly, if my situational awareness allows for me to be attacked that quickly, I might not be able to draw, chambered or not. So I manage the risk and play the odds and I have decided to carry empty chamber but practice racking as part of the draw stroke to offset that slower draw. To me, I would rather see 30 million Americans carrying daily in a safe manner, empty chamber, than see 1 million carrying with the risk of negligent discharge.

    • Ox

      Reply Reply September 8, 2019

      Excellent reasoning for why you do what you do.

  • Gail Rodgers

    Reply Reply September 6, 2019

    I have several friends that either purse or backpack carry or pocket carry. To me, all those pose a risk of the trigger catching on something in the bag or pocket. I’d be terrified of carrying that way, so I’d definitely leave the round out of the chamber in those cases.

    • Ox

      Reply Reply September 6, 2019

      I agree that some of those methods of carry can be scary. I strongly recommend that, no matter what method of carry you use, that you have the trigger covered. In a pocket, you can do it with a pocket holster. In a purse, backpack, or fanny pack, you can do it with holsters made for those cases or with a bikini clip-on trigger guard cover.

  • Dan

    Reply Reply September 6, 2019

    Yeah, appendix carry worries me. Negligent discharge could rob one of some very important equipment…

    • Ox

      Reply Reply September 6, 2019

      There’s that 🙂 For most people, the biggest issue isn’t that the muzzle is pointed towards their tackle, it’s that it’s pointed towards their femoral artery.

      That being said, there are 10s of thousands of people who carry safely in appendix position without incident every single day.

  • Chuck

    Reply Reply September 6, 2019

    There is a third alternative that no-one ever mentions. That is to carry the semi-automatic with no round in the chamber but with the piece cocked. It takes less effort to rack the slide with the piece cocked than it does with the piece uncocked. With the piece already cocked but the chamber empty, you might have the hammer/striker fall but with no serious results.

    With the piece cocked, racking the slide just operates the slide and seats a round. The cocking mechanism is already in its cocked position and the slide is much easier to operate.

    • Ox

      Reply Reply September 6, 2019

      It really depends on the firearm on whether or not it will be easier to rack the slide after you’ve just racked it.

      On DAO (double action only) striker fired guns, there won’t be a difference.

      On DA/SA (double action / single action) guns with a hammer like a Beretta 92FS or single action (1911) style guns, it may be easier, but then you’re going to get into a safety/consistency issue…

      The reason why people don’t talk about hammer back, safety off, empty chamber is because, in short, on a firearm with a hammer, if the hammer is back, you want the safety on unless you’re ready to fire.

      You never want to carry or store a firearm with the hammer back and safety off, even with an empty chamber.

      To begin with, it’s too easy to fire the weapon if your trigger finger sneaks into the trigger guard.

      Secondly, it needs to be a habit that any time the hammer is back, the safety is engaged until you’re ready to fire. Having one set of rules for when there’s a round in the chamber and another set of rules when there is not a round in the chamber is likely to cause bad outcomes for good people.

      So, if it is noticeably (and necessarily) easier for you to have your pistol in that configuration, you’re going to want to store your pistol with the safety engaged…and that means one more step to make the pistol ready to use. But if the additional force needed to overcome the hammer combined with the light portion of the spring tension, it may be wise to find a pistol that is easier to manipulate.

      I hope that helps.

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