Shooting the 5 Yard Roundup With A Sub-Compact

I’m getting back into live fire practice after a long winter’s break where I’ve been doing almost 100% dry fire practice and ran across a great drill/test/standard I want to share with you…

It’s called the “5 Yard Roundup.”  I learned about it from Claude Werner and it originally came from Justin Dyal.  

It’s 4 strings of fire, all shot at 5 yards on an NRA B-8 target with a 2.5 second par time for each string:

String 1: 1 round from the holster
String 2: 4 rounds from a ready position
String 3: 3 rounds, strong hand only, from ready
String 4: 2 rounds, support hand only, from ready

Late hits are -5

Misses are -10 (on a true B-8 target, there’s a 10″ “7” ring…the versions that print on 8.5×11 paper only have an 8″ “8” ring)

Here’s a video of how it played out when I shot it cold (both because it was my first shots of the day and because the temperature was in the 30s) with a Glock 26 subcompact:

You’ll probably notice that I wasn’t in much of a hurry for the strings.  I can get a first hit off from concealment at this distance in about a second.  My goal on these strings was to shoot them in 2-2.5 seconds.

You can max this drill…I’ve done it once so far and it was a fluke.  As with any drill, if you “train for the test,” you’ll do better than if you use it as a true assessment tool.

When you’re consistently shooting 90+ and need a little variety, there are 2 variations you can do:

First, lower your par time from 2.5 seconds to 2 seconds.  When I run the drill with 2 second par time, I have been scoring between 85-90.

Second, instead of having a set number of shots, see how many hits you can make in the black in the par time for each string.

If you’re on a range that severely limits your shooting speed, get rid of the time component and shoot the drill for pure accuracy.

Alternatively, you can shoot the drill one shot at a time, but lower your par time down to 1 or 1.5 seconds for each shot.

Why did I do this?

The biggest reason is that I wanted to show what kind of live fire performance you can get when you do the majority of your practice with dry fire…specifically recoil management and multi-shot strings.

What’s even more important is the fact that I purposely limit my dry fire practice time to 5-10 minutes per day.


Because I know that most people don’t have 30-60 minutes per day to do dry fire practice.  You’re probably lucky to have 5-10 most days.  On the days when you do have a big chunk of time, that’s awesome and our training works for those situations too.  But the training has to mesh with the fact that most people don’t have an hour of extra time every day to do firearms training.

Our training is specifically designed to squeeze the most possible benefit out of packed schedules and tight budgets.

That’s why so many current and former military and law enforcement shooters use our training and why responsibly armed Americans who own a handguns for self defense, home defense, and concealed carry trust our training.

And today, I want to encourage you to take the next step…and help law enforcement in the process.  As I said earlier this week, for everyone who signs up for the Dry Fire Training Cards, 21 Day Alpha Shooter training this week, we’ll donate a set of Dry Fire Training Cards to one of 3 law enforcement agencies.  It’s a great way to help yourself AND back the blue.  Take advantage of this offer right now by clicking >HERE<  We’ll do the same if you sign up for our advanced training… Draw Stroke Mastery.

Have you shot the drill yet?  Share your target pics!  And if you haven’t shot the drill yet, I want to strongly encourage you to do so and share your results when you do.

April 2018 update…

I just shot the 5 Yard Roundup again today and I want to share the results with you for a very specific reason.

On the draw-and-shoot and freestyle strings, it was all X’s and 10s.

On the shooting hand only string, it was one 10 and one 9.

On the support hand only string, it was one 8 and one 7 for a final score of 94…better than what I shot in the video last year, but it would have been a 97-99 if I would have performed better with  my support hand.

On one hand, I’m bummed with this.  On the other hand, it’s a 100% reflection of how I consciously spent my training time the last few months.  I spent 80% of my time on 2 handed shooting, 20% on strong-hand-only, and essentially a big, fat, zero on support hand shooting.

In other words, I performed the way I did as a result of a series of incremental choices in what I trained (or didn’t train) over the last few months.

It wasn’t a surprise.

It was an engineered result.

The same rule holds true for you…your performance in the future will be a predicted outcome based on what you do between now and then.

You can do random drills from the internet, or that you hear from your friends…

and expect random performance.

Or you could follow an engineered training system that’s guaranteed to get results.

You’ll spend LESS time and money with our training system than you would on your own to get the same or better performance.

Simply put, it’s a smarter way to train.

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